Josefien studied theology for a litte bit, but soon made the switch to film. Now, with her third film, she dares to call herself a real documentary maker. Her latest film about a wayward dog trainer was selected for the Gouden Kalf competition and caused a lot of commotion.  A candid talk about dealing with uncertainty in the creative process and about learning to stand up for yourself. And an in-depth interview with an image maker whose least favourite thing is talking, but whose love for documentary film all the greater.

You can listen to the interview here. Dutch spoken.